Pats cheaters!!!

Sprint · 02-14-2008, 09:12 AM

There seems to be alot more to this story that the NFL is hiding

Belichick has been taping since 2000, Goodell tells Specter

By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
February 13, 2008
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Bill Belichick has been illegally taping opponents' defensive signals since he became the New England Patriots' coach in 2000, according to Sen. Arlen Specter, who said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told him that during a meeting Wednesday.

"There was confirmation that there has been taping since 2000, when Coach Belichick took over," Specter said.

Specter said Goodell gave him that information during the 1-hour, 40-minute meeting, which was requested by Specter so the commissioner could explain his reasons for destroying the Spygate tapes and notes.

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"There were a great many questions answered by Commissioner Goodell," Specter, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, told reporters after the meeting. "I found a lot of questions unanswerable because of the tapes and notes had been destroyed."

Goodell said Belichick told him he believed the taping was legal; Goodell said he did not concur.

"He said that's always been his interpretation since he's been the head coach," the commissioner said. "We are going to agree to disagree on the facts."

Specter, from Pennsylvania, wants to talk to other league officials about what exactly was taped and which games may have been compromised.

"We have a right to have honest football games," he said.

Goodell noted that "we were the ones that disclosed" the Patriots' illegal taping of the New York Jets' defensive signals in Week 1 of last season. Further, Goodell said, they had an admission by Belichick.

"I have nothing to hide," Goodell said.

Goodell also told Specter that that he doesn't regret destroying the Spygate tapes or the notes.

"I think it was the right thing to do," Goodell said.

Still, Specter wants to know why penalties were imposed on Belichick before the full extent of the wrongdoing was known and the tapes destroyed in a two-week span. Asked if he thinks there was a coverup, Specter demurred.

"There was an enormous amount of haste," Specter said.

He scoffed at the reasons Goodell gave for destroying the tapes and notes, particularly about trying to keep them out of competitors' hands and because Belichick had admitted to the taping.

"What's that got to do with it? There's an admission of guilt, you preserve the evidence," Specter said. As for keeping the tapes out of the hands of others: "All you have to do is lock up the tapes."

Belichick was fined $500,000 and the team was fined $250,000 because of the Spygate incident. The Patriots also forfeited a first-round draft pick.

Specter has questioned the quality of the NFL's investigation into the matter and raised the possibility of congressional hearings if he wasn't satisfied with Goodell's answers. Specter also raised the threat of Congress canceling the league's antitrust exemption and reiterated that in the meeting with Goodell.

Goodell also said he has not heard from Matt Walsh, the former Patriots employee who performed some videotaping duties for the team.

Walsh told The Associated Press last week during the Pro Bowl in Hawaii that he couldn't talk about allegations that he taped a walkthrough practice by the St. Louis Rams before the 2002 Super Bowl. New England, a two-touchdown underdog, won that game 20-17.

Goodell said he has offered Walsh a deal whereby "he has to tell the truth and he has to return anything he took improperly" in return for indemnity. Specter said he, too, wanted to talk to Walsh and perhaps offer a different deal.

Goodell also said he reserves the right to reopen the investigation if more information is uncovered.

BucNut · 02-14-2008, 09:38 AM

I agree that the Pats are cheaters, but I don't think Senate needs to be involved. Don't they have more important issues to deal with than the NFL? Goodell needs to appoint an outside source to investigate.

BucShot · 02-14-2008, 10:08 AM

Somebody in the media mentioned that this situation would probably blow up during the off season and hinted towards problems for the organization because of it. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens but you're right BN, government needs to stick to the business of running the country. We didn't elect them to oversee the operation of professional sports franchises.

ProwlingPanther · 02-14-2008, 03:05 PM

People say that, but the NFL is one of the marquee businesses in America and if there's an illegal or unethical cover up I think they need to be investigated.

I forget who it was, but one congressmen during the Clemens hearing yesterday mentioned that aspect. He pointed out that they do other "more important" issues, but with sports related hearings come more media hype.

Sprint · 02-14-2008, 09:27 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by BucShot
	government needs to stick to the business of running the country.

Dosen't seem as if they do a very good job of that either

Grrrowlguy · 02-17-2008, 12:16 PM

Theres a funny you cheated parody video set to mj's beat it! Nice dig at the Patriots by the NY Post! You can google search you cheated it and it come up on the first page for me. I would post direct link but the site that hosted it isnt bad but has some pg-13 things on it and I dont want the young ones to see something they shouldnt.